From: "Joel and Lynn GAzis-SAx" To: Jamie McCarthy Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:01:11 +0000 Subject: Re: Web Book Award for Blacklisted by Cyberpatrol! I appreciate your work. My site is among those blacklisted. (http://www.best.com/~gazissax/ and http://www.alsirat.com/) Regards, Joel GAzis-SAx Visit GAzis-SAX Books A Barnes and Noble Affiliate http://www.alsirat.com/store/index.html From: jamie@mccarthy.org To: gazissax@best.com Subject: Re: Web Book Award for Blacklisted by Cyberpatrol! >I appreciate your work. My site is among those blacklisted. >(http://www.best.com/~gazissax/ and http://www.alsirat.com/) No kidding! When did you learn this? Is it still blocked? Is there any good reason for it to be blocked? Tell me more so I can put a note about this, next to the web award graphic. From: "Joel and Lynn GAzis-SAx" To: Jamie McCarthy Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:14:13 +0000 Subject: Re: Web Book Award for Blacklisted by Cyberpatrol! The last I checked, it seemed to be blocked because of a horror magazine which I run on the site and because of a cemetery page called "Shameless Nudity" which is actually a joke and contains nothing objectionable. I cooperated with the RSAC review process only to find that Cyberpatrol decided my whole site was objectionable and dangerous for children. I would, at worst, give the site an R, but certainly not all the pages. We also have a Children's Health page in our site which includes some medical information about pregnancy. When we asked Cyberpatrol to explain the ban, we got no answer. You can check out the main "problems" at: http://www.alsirat.com/ Shameless Nudity is at: http://www.alsirat.com/silence/shame.html Regards, Joel From: jamie@mccarthy.org To: gazissax@best.com Subject: Re: Web Book Award for Blacklisted by Cyberpatrol! Just two more questions -- how did you learn about it being blocked? And, do you recall if this text was on the page when it got blocked? This page is therefore registered as an act of civil disobedience against stupid censorship laws and stupid people who think they are necessary. This picture is not illegal to print in a school textbook. Why should it be illegal on the InterNet? (If so, this corroborates our already-substantial evidence that Cyber Patrol does not even look at a single entire webpage before blocking it. If they'd read that text, surely they would have realized the page deserved at least a second look.) From: "Joel and Lynn GAzis-SAx" Organization: Alsirat Online Magazine To: Jamie McCarthy Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:12:02 +0000 Subject: Re: Web Book Award for Blacklisted by Cyberpatrol! That text has been on there ever since I set up the page three years ago. About a year ago, I visited a Wiccan site with a link to the Cyberpatrol "check your link" site. I sent Cyberpatrol a note complaining about this (check http://www.best.com/~gazissax/) and received no answer. It may be that they have not caught up with my new domain name though, technically, it is still the same site. I would rate my site PG . I also run a Call of Cthulhu MUSH which I noticed sometimes attracts their ire. Regards, Joel GAzis-SAx From: jamie@mccarthy.org To: gazissax@best.com Subject: Re: Web Book Award for Blacklisted by Cyberpatrol! >I sent Cyberpatrol a note >complaining about this (check http://www.best.com/~gazissax/) and >received no answer. It may be that they have not caught up with my >new domain name You're absolutely right, Joel -- it's still blocked under the old URL. I've noted this on our website. Thanks for the information.